What is more deserving of skepticism than the propaganda of the established media conglomerates and the oligarchy controlled government itself. Many of course do not understand this letting apathy and even narcissism give them a security blanket from whence to lash out in irrational an illogical patterns far too common today. One of the issues is a particular tool, a very dangerous tool, a machine actually called the firearm for the uninformed that is commonly called a “gun.”
Before we get into the story that prompted the title we can review a short video clip.
I guess you can always pick the wrong coffee house... run thugs, run!
Crime and Self-Defense:
Roughly 16,272 murders were committed in the United States during 2008. Of these, about 10,886 or 67% were committed with firearms.
A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 0.5% of households had members who had used a gun for defense during a situation in which they thought someone "almost certainly would have been killed" if they "had not used a gun for protection." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 162,000 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard.”
Based on survey data from the U.S. Department of Justice, roughly 5,340,000 violent crimes were committed in the United States during 2008. These include simple/aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders. Of these, about 436,000 or 8% were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun.
Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology, U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.
A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.
A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:
34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim”
40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun”
69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim”
And of course one item worth noting for its misuse in established media propaganda.
"In homes with guns, the homicide of a household member is almost 3 times more likely to occur than in homes without guns.”
This statistic is based on a three-county study comparing households in which a homicide occurred to demographically similar households in which a homicide did not occur. After controlling for several variables, the study found that gun ownership was associated with a 2.7 times increase in the odds of homicide.
This study does have a few flaws:
Ownership is not a random decision, homicide victims may well possess firearms precisely because they are likely to be victimized, live in an area considered dangerous or crime ridden, or have received direct threats.
Often cited that states with high firearm homicide numbers prove that the prevalence of guns is the deciding factor often fail to cite that many states with the highest gun ownership also have the lowest firearm homicide numbers. Poverty, education, and issues (including politically incorrect facts) show stronger correlation to violent crime numbers.
The results are arrived at by subjecting the raw data to statistical analyses instead of letting the data speak for itself. (For reference, the raw data of this study shows that households in which a homicide occurred had a firearm ownership rate of 45% as compared to 36% for non-homicide households. Also, households in which a homicide occurred were twice as likely have a household member who was previously arrested (53% vs. 23%), five times more likely to have a household member who used illicit drugs (31% vs. 6%), and five times more likely to have a household member who was previously hit or hurt during a fight in the home (32% vs. 6%).)
What I find most interesting as of late is the irrational and illogical equating of deaths by accident (negligent discharge) and the deliberate use of a firearm to prevent a crime and somehow the restraint of the typical victim does not count because most criminals are not killed in the process of a victim defending themselves.
In the end no reason, no statistics, and no emotional projection can change the fact that the firearm is a dangerous tool, legal adult ownership of any firearm comes with great responsibility, freedom is not and never has been safe and firearms remain deadly tools.
On to our subject - thugs, guns, and racism, and yes I am using the word thug, where you see that the insertion is mine...
The victim:
The Denver DA drags man into system drains his money and spits him out when nothing is found (standard for Denver except for the wild police that are out of control) The local media and ethnic communities join together and use racism and deliberate exposure to drive out a good individual that wanted none of the trouble.
The established media:
The typically liberal media of Denver whines about a thug killed in a robbery attempt and promotes interviews with tearful relatives.
It starts with the title - Make My Day Shooter: ‘I Did The Right Thing’
The genuflection to the criminal and his family is sickening.
The robbery:
“I’m yelling ‘Who’s in my house? Who’s in my house?’ I was scared,” said Kutchin (homeowner victim).
Suddenly, the three teens came running down from the second floor. Marcus Duran (Thug) was carrying a loaded pistol. As he neared the front door, about five feet away from Kutchin, Duran brandished the loaded gun and aimed it at the homeowner. Duran (Thug) was still inside Kutchin’s home.
“And I just reacted in a defensive stance and took a shot,” said Kutchin.
The round missed its target. Kutchin said he could see Duran’s pistol.
“I saw a gun pointed at me and I shot,” said Kutchin.
The second round hit Duran in the head. The two other teens fled (now in jail for related robberies). Also be aware the rounds fired from the victim’s revolver are shot-shells and a single round will fire multiple projectiles (from 3 to 50 depending on size of the shot).
The toxicology report for Marcus Duran (Thug) shows the teen tested positive for alcohol, opiates and THC- the active ingredient in marijuana.
“My Godson did wrong, but he didn’t deserve to die,” said Phyllis Chavez, Duran’s godmother.
“I don’t think it was fair the way he(Kutchin) shot freely. Do it in the air. Why was he aiming at them if they are running away? That’s the part I don’t understand,” said Chavez.
You should see some of the comments both pro and con. Look Phyllis your godson entered two homes that night with intent on criminal activity. Duran was armed and he fell under a second round fired so in effect a “warning shot” was fired first as the victim missed with the first shot-shell fired. Duran raised his pistol (an illegal pistol BTW, and illegal for him, a minor, to posses - so much for gun control) and the homeowner/victim was forced to kill this criminal.
It is not the fault of the victim that your relative was a criminal, you would rather he be in prison or free after he killed this homeowner? (somehow I bet that is the case.)
Kutchin said beyond the anguish over what happened, he has spent $5,000 on attorneys fees, another $1,000 on his insurance deductible and countless hours dealing with police, prosecutors and court personnel.
The Denver District Attorney’s office cleared Kutchin of any criminal wrongdoing, ruling his actions were justified under Colorado law. But that is not the end of the story.
Channel 31/Channel 2 crew members visited the house in question. They found the 3150 Gaylord Street residence boarded up, and neighbors told them the owner had left after reportedly receiving threats.
The racism:
In the end the homeowner is driven out of his own home by racist hispanics more interested in lauding a teen criminal than facing the reality of the case. I can assure you that if anything had been wrong or if Denver had been able to plant evidence, or force a wrongful prosecution you better believe that the DA in this area would have sacrificed the homeowner for political gain, clearly he was not able to railroad this individual.
Some additions:
Armed self defense works
As I’ve noted before, criminals often work in groups, using superior numbers to overwhelm their victims. When that happens, even the strongest unarmed victims can be overpowered by the numerically superior criminals.
Whining morons bitch about a criminal lost, "Make My Day" case or unjustifiable homicide?
In the end this is simple - break into a home at 2 am in the morning and you have a gun with you you then threaten someone with, you have written your own death warrant, I have no sympathy for stupidity, excuses, or age, the world is better now that a criminal’s career was cut off permanently.
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Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Tuesday, June 26, 2012
Proof the system is rigged, no way to “fix” this but crash!
Have you ever wondered if voting was going to change anything?
Do you actually need any more proof the system is rigged and needs to FALL.
Prepare for the reelection of Obama now!
Sunday, June 17, 2012
The importance of Rodney King to preppers and his untimely passing

My artistic rending of Mr. King
The importance of Rodney King to preppers and his untimely passing.
Today I discovered that King's fiancée discovered his lifeless body at the bottom of their swimming pool. I do not suspect any foul play as it seems that he may well have drowned accidentally after an evening of intoxicating himself.
My condolences to the family as a only a detached observer can, I have never meet Mr. King but he always had a certain soft spot in my feelings because of the events that made him famous.
Mr. King never deserved the disgusting beating he received at the hands of our ever increasingly statist and sadistic law enforcement forces. I am not inferring that he was not guilty of a crime, I am not inferring that he was in any way justified for his actions, I am stating that no matter the crime the beating was animalistic and unjustified for the level of crimes he may have been guilty of committing.
Mr. King was a huge wake-up call for me personally because of my increasing work related traveling I quickly regained my respect for my upbringing as a prep per.
Two things happened, first I was able to put aside my personal distaste for criminal behavior and my ingrained respect for law enforcement by watching the wild ape-like beating the officers gave this man while under the color-of-law.
To this day I remember clearly how the beating reminded me of the scene from 2001: A Space Odyssey where the ape-like pre-men start the beating of the bones and the pig. It was both sublime and intimately frightening at the same time. My consciousness about statist abuse was cemented as was the feeling that we are witnessing the end of our civilization to paraphrase "My God, the barbarians are at the gates!”
Second I was able to watch the aftermath. I was able to watch and understand the depth of the evil and manipulation of the oligarchy controlled media. A whorish media, who in effect, directed the most susceptible of a dependent and resentful community into a huge orgy of hate, violence and crime.
I had to ask the hard question, if this could happen because of MSM manipulation what could we expect when a real crisis were to befall our communities?
I would never be the same again.
It is a strange loss, the untimely death of Mr. King leaves me with just so much less hope than before and I cannot express nor identify exactly why. I can only hope that the knowledge and foreshadowing this convergence of events centered on the fame thrust on an unfortunate individual will in effect save lives in the future. Rest in peace.
Monday, May 16, 2011
Who do they think they are fooling?
Who's a Republican? Exposing the statist center of the republican neocon takeover.
Saturday, May 14, 2011
U.S. vs. John Bad Elk USSC decision thrown out the window

The Supreme Court of Indiana just ruled that in Indiana, if a police officer decides to illegally come into your house, you're not allowed to do anything to stop him. According to "Justice" Steven David, resisting an admittedly "unlawful police entry into a home" is against "public policy." Got that? If you live in Indiana, and a cop decides to invade your home without a shred of legal justification, it is considered a crime for you to do anything to stop him.
Indiana: Full Frontal Fascism
Indiana High Court Says No Right to Resist Illegal Police Entry
The Indiana Supreme Court ruled Friday that state residents have no right to resist an illegal police entry, overturning a Common Law that dates back to the English Magna Carta of 1215.
Writing for the court's 3-2 majority, Justice Steven David said if a police officer wanted to enter a home for any reason - or for no reason - homeowners could do nothing to block the officer's entry.
"We believe ... a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence," David wrote, according to the Northwest Indiana Times. "We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest."
He said persons arrested after an illegal police entry are still entitled to post bail and can seek remedies through the legal system.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” - Samuel Adams
Thursday, April 21, 2011
The Ludlow Colorado Oligarchy/Government Massacre
Waco was not the first slaughter - what is it with April?
Thursday, April 7, 2011
Ass backward political authoritarians
In the wake of the Koran burning controversy, Sen. Lindsey Graham was quick to call for limiting free speech but never the wars we fight allegedly to protect these same freedoms.
Wednesday, April 6, 2011
Milton Friedman on the flaw of the welfare state
Professor Milton Friedman explains basic fallacies on which the welfare state has been built.
Tuesday, April 5, 2011
The Lincoln myths
From: THOMAS DILORENZO
President-elect Barack Obama's historic journey to his swearing-in was underway when he hopped on a train in Philadelphia. As a tribute to President Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president, who led the nation through the Civil War and ended slavery in the United States, Barack Obama traveled the same train route on a whistle-stop tour of 70 cities when he was inaugurated in 1861.
There is a good reason why the Lincoln legend has taken on such mythical proportions: Much of what Americans think they know about Abraham Lincoln is in fact a myth. Let's consider a few of the more prominent ones.
Myth #1: Lincoln invaded the South to free the slaves.
President-elect Barack Obama's historic journey to his swearing-in was underway when he hopped on a train in Philadelphia. As a tribute to President Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president, who led the nation through the Civil War and ended slavery in the United States, Barack Obama traveled the same train route on a whistle-stop tour of 70 cities when he was inaugurated in 1861.
There is a good reason why the Lincoln legend has taken on such mythical proportions: Much of what Americans think they know about Abraham Lincoln is in fact a myth. Let's consider a few of the more prominent ones.
Myth #1: Lincoln invaded the South to free the slaves.
Ending slavery and racial injustice is not why the North invaded.
As Lincoln wrote to Horace Greeley on Aug. 22, 1862: "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it"
Congress announced to the world on July 22, 1861, that the purpose of the war was not "interfering with the rights or established institutions of those states" (i.e., slavery), but to preserve the Union "with the rights of the several states unimpaired." At the time of Fort Sumter (April 12, 1861) only the seven states of the deep South had seceded. There were more slaves in the Union than out of it, and Lincoln had no plans to free any of them.
The North invaded to regain lost federal tax revenue by keeping the Union intact by force of arms. In his First Inaugural Lincoln promised to invade any state that failed to collect "the duties and imposts," and he kept his promise. On April 19, 1861, the reason Lincoln gave for his naval blockade of the Southern ports was that "the collection of the revenue cannot be effectually executed" in the states that had seceded.
Myth #2: Lincoln's war saved the Union.
Congress announced to the world on July 22, 1861, that the purpose of the war was not "interfering with the rights or established institutions of those states" (i.e., slavery), but to preserve the Union "with the rights of the several states unimpaired." At the time of Fort Sumter (April 12, 1861) only the seven states of the deep South had seceded. There were more slaves in the Union than out of it, and Lincoln had no plans to free any of them.
The North invaded to regain lost federal tax revenue by keeping the Union intact by force of arms. In his First Inaugural Lincoln promised to invade any state that failed to collect "the duties and imposts," and he kept his promise. On April 19, 1861, the reason Lincoln gave for his naval blockade of the Southern ports was that "the collection of the revenue cannot be effectually executed" in the states that had seceded.
Myth #2: Lincoln's war saved the Union.
The war may have saved the Union geographically, but it destroyed it philosophically by destroying its voluntary nature. In the Articles of Confederation, the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution, the states described themselves as "free and independent." They delegated certain powers to the federal government they had created as their agent but retained sovereignty for themselves.
This was widely understood in the North as well as the South in 1861. As the Brooklyn Daily Eagle editorialized on Nov. 13, 1860, the Union "depends for its continuance on the free consent and will of the sovereign people of each state, and when that consent and will is withdrawn on either part, their Union is gone." The New York Journal of Commerce concurred, writing on Jan. 12, 1861, that a coerced Union changes the nature of government from "a voluntary one, in which the people are sovereigns, to a despotism where one part of the people are slaves." The majority of Northern newspapers agreed.
Myth #3: Lincoln championed equality and natural rights.
This was widely understood in the North as well as the South in 1861. As the Brooklyn Daily Eagle editorialized on Nov. 13, 1860, the Union "depends for its continuance on the free consent and will of the sovereign people of each state, and when that consent and will is withdrawn on either part, their Union is gone." The New York Journal of Commerce concurred, writing on Jan. 12, 1861, that a coerced Union changes the nature of government from "a voluntary one, in which the people are sovereigns, to a despotism where one part of the people are slaves." The majority of Northern newspapers agreed.
Myth #3: Lincoln championed equality and natural rights.
His words and, more important, his actions, repudiate this myth.
"I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races," he announced in his Aug. 21, 1858, debate with Stephen Douglas. "I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position." And, "Free them [slaves] and make them politically and socially our equals? My own feelings will not admit of this. We cannot, then, make them equals."
In Springfield, Ill., on July 17, 1858, Lincoln said, "What I would most desire would be the separation of the white and black races." On Sept. 18, 1858, in Charleston, Ill., he said: "I will to the very last stand by the law of this state, which forbids the marrying of white people with Negroes."
Lincoln supported the Illinois Constitution, which prohibited the emigration of black people into the state, and he also supported the Illinois Black Codes, which deprived the small number of free blacks in the state any semblance of citizenship. He strongly supported the Fugitive Slave Act, which compelled Northern states to capture runaway slaves and return them to their owners. In his First Inaugural he pledged his support of a proposed constitutional amendment that had just passed the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives that would have prohibited the federal government from ever having the power "to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State." In his First Inaugural Lincoln advocated making this amendment "express and irrevocable."
Lincoln was also a lifelong advocate of "colonization" or shipping all black people to Africa, Central America, Haiti--anywhere but here. "I cannot make it better known than it already is," he stated in a Dec. 1, 1862, Message to Congress, "that I strongly favor colonization." To Lincoln, blacks could be "equal," but not in the United States.
Myth #4: Lincoln was a defender of the Constitution.
In Springfield, Ill., on July 17, 1858, Lincoln said, "What I would most desire would be the separation of the white and black races." On Sept. 18, 1858, in Charleston, Ill., he said: "I will to the very last stand by the law of this state, which forbids the marrying of white people with Negroes."
Lincoln supported the Illinois Constitution, which prohibited the emigration of black people into the state, and he also supported the Illinois Black Codes, which deprived the small number of free blacks in the state any semblance of citizenship. He strongly supported the Fugitive Slave Act, which compelled Northern states to capture runaway slaves and return them to their owners. In his First Inaugural he pledged his support of a proposed constitutional amendment that had just passed the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives that would have prohibited the federal government from ever having the power "to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State." In his First Inaugural Lincoln advocated making this amendment "express and irrevocable."
Lincoln was also a lifelong advocate of "colonization" or shipping all black people to Africa, Central America, Haiti--anywhere but here. "I cannot make it better known than it already is," he stated in a Dec. 1, 1862, Message to Congress, "that I strongly favor colonization." To Lincoln, blacks could be "equal," but not in the United States.
Myth #4: Lincoln was a defender of the Constitution.
Quite the contrary: Generations of historians have labeled Lincoln a "dictator." "Dictatorship played a decisive role in the North's successful effort to maintain the Union by force of arms," wrote Clinton Rossiter in "Constitutional Dictatorship." And, "Lincoln's amazing disregard for the Constitution was considered by nobody as legal."
James G. Randall documented Lincoln's assault on the Constitution in "Constitutional Problems Under Lincoln." Lincoln unconstitutionally suspended the writ of habeas corpus and had the military arrest tens of thousands of Northern political opponents, including dozens of newspaper editors and owners. Some 300 newspapers were shut down and all telegraph communication was censored. Northern elections were rigged; Democratic voters were intimidated by federal soldiers; hundreds of New York City draft protesters were gunned down by federal troops; West Virginia was unconstitutionally carved out of Virginia; and the most outspoken member of the Democratic Party opposition, Congressman Clement L. Vallandigham of Ohio, was deported. Duly elected members of the Maryland legislature were imprisoned, as was the mayor of Baltimore and Congressman Henry May. The border states were systematically disarmed in violation of the Second Amendment and private property was confiscated. Lincoln's apologists say he had "to destroy the Constitution in order to save it."
Myth #5: Lincoln was a "great humanitarian" who had "malice toward none."
James G. Randall documented Lincoln's assault on the Constitution in "Constitutional Problems Under Lincoln." Lincoln unconstitutionally suspended the writ of habeas corpus and had the military arrest tens of thousands of Northern political opponents, including dozens of newspaper editors and owners. Some 300 newspapers were shut down and all telegraph communication was censored. Northern elections were rigged; Democratic voters were intimidated by federal soldiers; hundreds of New York City draft protesters were gunned down by federal troops; West Virginia was unconstitutionally carved out of Virginia; and the most outspoken member of the Democratic Party opposition, Congressman Clement L. Vallandigham of Ohio, was deported. Duly elected members of the Maryland legislature were imprisoned, as was the mayor of Baltimore and Congressman Henry May. The border states were systematically disarmed in violation of the Second Amendment and private property was confiscated. Lincoln's apologists say he had "to destroy the Constitution in order to save it."
Myth #5: Lincoln was a "great humanitarian" who had "malice toward none."
This is inconsistent with the fact that Lincoln micromanaged the waging of war on civilians, including the burning of entire towns populated only by civilians; massive looting and plundering; rape; and the execution of civilians (See Mark Grimsley, "The Hard Hand of War"). Pro-Lincoln historian Lee Kennett wrote in "Marching Through Georgia" that, had the Confederates somehow won, they would have been justified in "stringing up President Lincoln and the entire Union high command" as war criminals.
Myth #6: War was necessary to end slavery.
Myth #6: War was necessary to end slavery.
During the 19th century, dozens of countries, including the British and Spanish empires, ended slavery peacefully through compensated emancipation. Among such countries were Argentina, Colombia, Chile, all of Central America, Mexico, Bolivia, Uruguay, the French and Danish colonies, Ecuador, Peru, and Venezuela. (Lincoln did propose compensated emancipation for the border states, but coupled his proposal with deportation of any freed slaves. He failed to see it through, however). Only in America was war associated with emancipation.
In sum, the power of the state ultimately rests upon a series of myths about the alleged munificence of our rulers. Nothing serves this purpose better than the Lincoln myth. This should be kept in mind by all who visit the new Lincoln statue in Richmond.
THOMAS DILORENZO is the author of "The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War" and a professor of economics at Loyola College in Baltimore.
The Southern Avenger presents a short subject film.
When South Carolina NAACP President Lonnie Randolph criticized Obama recently, comparing the president honoring Confederate soldiers at Arlington Cemetery on Memorial Day to paying tribute to Adolph Hitler, it was worth pointing out how Abraham Lincoln was much more similar to the Nazi dictator than Southern soldiers fighting for their country's independence.
In sum, the power of the state ultimately rests upon a series of myths about the alleged munificence of our rulers. Nothing serves this purpose better than the Lincoln myth. This should be kept in mind by all who visit the new Lincoln statue in Richmond.
THOMAS DILORENZO is the author of "The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War" and a professor of economics at Loyola College in Baltimore.
The Southern Avenger presents a short subject film.
When South Carolina NAACP President Lonnie Randolph criticized Obama recently, comparing the president honoring Confederate soldiers at Arlington Cemetery on Memorial Day to paying tribute to Adolph Hitler, it was worth pointing out how Abraham Lincoln was much more similar to the Nazi dictator than Southern soldiers fighting for their country's independence.
Cassandra effect and Social Security
You need to understand this is not about saying anyone does not deserve what they pay into, but to talk about how YOU have had your money STOLEN and you need to understand what is about to happen!
If you expect retirement or Social Security - YOU NEED TO MAKE PLANS NOW, it will not be there for you and you need to understand it was stolen from you, please remember who you can "thank" for this when the time comes.
The coming disaster - Social Security is going to disappear as more reach retirement than can support this SOCIALIST plan.
This is all much deeper than anyone is wanting to come to terms with...
We also have to come to terms with the fact that many of the most productive in the country will be retiring soon leaving a smaller section of productive people and millions of Illegals hungry for a smaller amount of money produced by the not-yet retired.
A statistical disaster is about to happen, and that is the massive retirement of the "baby-boomers" leaving much smaller populations of productive workers to cover larger proportions of retired people.
Our economy will not handle what is about to happen... and our government seems to be intent on driving us faster into the pit.
Our mistake would be in thinking that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid were ever good ideas or that they were ever Constitutional...
If a private company or individual started a pyramid scam like Social Security they would end up in prison for most of their adult lives, but whorish and evil politicians such as FDR are even called "great" for their treason.
I don't begrudge any reaching retirement your thoughts that you deserve you money back,
but you have to understand your parents, my parents, and all of us were TRICKED.
We were TRICKED into thinking this was all a good idea and told it was acceptable or even Constitutional - it was not and is not.
If you are of retirement age you most likely will see the end of Social Security, I KNOW I will never see a penny of it and I am PLANNING for this problem. I know I cannot "get out" of that
"voluntary" system, so I am not begrudging the retirement aged the money the government has stolen from all the taxpayers to keep a valuable and large voting block happy, it is all everyone for himself after all!
It is theft, it will always be theft, and it will continue to be an issue for this country.
I am not saying that someone who has worked their lives does not deserve a retirement they paid into - what I am saying is that is was THEFT and redistribution and was wrong from the beginning.
I am also saying that anyone on retirement NOW that will likely live long enough to see the next ten years will continue to see less and less of that VALUE (as the money will be worth less and less) and most likely will see the END of that system - you should be prepared to re-enter the workforce when this Social Security system collapses.
The simple fact is that there are LOTS of baby-boomers about to reach retirement who will by simple large numbers will stress the Social Security system to the point it will break. I don't begrudge the money that was stolen from them either but I recognize that it will break the
system and likely break the country.
It was a ponzi scam from the beginning, doomed to fail.
I for one do not want to see my children and grandchildren robbed of their money to pay for some ponzi scam. It needed to be fixed a long time ago but because the whores in politics are also cowards they never wanted to make that large voting block mad....
Because none were willing to face the problem it has only grown larger and will continue to grow larger until it fails catastrophically.
I would like my generation (40s-50s) to put it's foot down and dig in and fix this problem, but as long as we have people continue to say "I want mine" it will continue to grow larger and more dangerous. I think I deserve it myself, I look at how much they have pulled out and think, "I want that back" but I understand that looking at this with emotion and a sense of entitlement will only make the end run worse. I am even willing to continue to have it stolen from me and KNOW I will never see it as long as they stop the system NOW and take that burden off the following generations.
What IS the answer - I'm not sure, one could be to consolidate and grandfather then cut the system off... I do know if nothing is done it WILL fail. As we continue to have big business send work offshore and hire illegal workers there will be no BASE to draw funds from to support the
system.
It is close, and it will be huge - get ready.
This can be an emotional issue, don't let that take away from the looming factual problems that will have to be dealt with.
This and other issues have become such an emotional issue none are willing to look at it objectively.
The truth is this county flirted with Socialism and allowed the Social Security system to be set up in the first place, FDR lied when he said the new currency was not fiat currency, and lied about Social Security it was our biggest early experiment with socialism and it is about to fail.
They were tricked, we were tricked, and most of the people in the US were tricked and NONE of us likes to admit that we were duped and that makes it an emotional issue.
The FACTS are that it WILL fail - do we want to put our heads in the sand and have it fall on our backs or do we want to recognize what will happen?
I am willing to CONTINUE TO PAY - even KNOWING that I will never see a SINGLE penny! I just want it to end, I am willing to pay for the bad decisions of the past as long as it DOES NOT pass on for more generations. But I do not think we will survive as a country that long, we are already doomed, we already cannot handle more of the big problems and we have a long list waiting to hit us.
I would like it to change before it becomes a problem - what happens when we have a large amount of baby-boomers who DEPEND on Social Security and HAVE NO OTHER OPTION and find themselves with a bankrupt system and NO INCOME...
I'm not begrudging anyone who paid in and then expects some back - like I said, I would like some of that back myself - but I am willing to give it up to end the system - a system that CANNOT survive - it is one of the reasons that a ponzi scam is ILLEGAL - it ALWAYS WILL FAIL.
The system WILL fail - prepare NOW, this is not an issue of "blame this or blame that" but a simple issue of warning and fixing - if we cannot fix it we need to spread the warning that it WILL FAIL, I want us all to be ready for what is about to happen...
What happens on a fixed income and the TRILLIONS of dollars of fiat money is finally released by the banks and starts a new round of excessive inflation? That hammer is about to fall and I can guarantee that the government will NOT bring the fixed amounts up to compensate.
I hear lots of "I worked my ass off and my money was given to your grandparents - YOU owe me. You talk about patriotism and freedom like you almost know what it is all about."
First, I DO NOT owe YOU a damned thin dime. I never forced anyone to pay into a ponzi fraud, I am at least rational enough to understand you are being irrational. Second, I understand the disappointment more than you think, and I do understand patriotism, and a lot more about the Constitution and freedom than most of the typical Americans expecting their entitlements. (Far too many whiny Baby Boomers who seem to want to blame the "youth" for everything, you were the ones who vote in your own slavery... what nerve)
I am NOT disparaging anyones life of work or what they paid in taxes (think rational and logical you know the truth) I am only making the obvious conclusion - the political WHORES sold you and this country's future a long time ago! It is called fraud and you and I were taken for suckers and fleeced.
"But I get a statement from Social Security that tells me how much I will get, that is like a contract, a statement of account they have to honor"
This of course all assumes that the government has any honor and is any better than Bernie Madoff - they are not and never will be. How incompetent is the government? Have you not figured this out? Doesn't this problem just take the cake? Madoff gave out monthly statements also... we all know how that worked out.
When could we ever trust the government to be honest and honorable?
Yes, we were all forced to contribute, yes the government would rather waste money on ill advised endeavors, like buying votes with welfare and amnesty, yes they lied us into socialism.... But they are incompetent and they always were, we gave the keys to the bank to a bunch of drunken losers at the bar and we get this, a wreck of a country, the fault is not with the youth or your "selfish" neighbors but with your past voting - you made this bed now we all have to lie in it.
I would say my point is always hate, fear, and distrust the government, and understand they have no intent to help you but to help the ones who have the real power. Bail-outs, so who was behind that? Why was it so important that Bush the younger got on TV and told everyone that we needed to hand BANKERS our money or the country would be ruined - and what happened? Record PROFITS for the banks on our tax dollars.
The government did not "find the money" for the bailout - it is debt, crushing debt, on the backs of our grandchildren! They paid for the handouts for their masters with the debt slavery of our grandchildren! If the American people should be mad enough to start the second revolution - the first was for LESS - how the Founders must be turning in their graves!.
We could quote the Founding Fathers on this issue because they KNEW what was going to happen when the creeping forces of banking and intrigue would take over, and the need to keep out of "foreign entanglements" like Vietnam and now Iraq and Afghanistan... Ask yourself the simple question "who benefits?" - you know the answer deep down.
What do we do? They lied and they are broke and many who should be able to retire on money they were promised will not get it or it will stop when they need it...
How do we prepare for this? I would be willing to continue to pay Social Security and never see a penny - as long as it stops with my generation, I get the feeling I am alone in this - the desire to fix it at any cost and at any price, because it will continue to be a broken system and I want to fix it now before it gets worse.
The reality is WHEN does government EVER keep a promise unless it means votes or more cash into their whorish pockets.
A link from the mouth of the beast (US .Gov).
Johnson during Vietnam needed some money to continue at that point some government accounting shenanigans were uses to "cook the books" to help with the higher debt the government wanted to continue to buy the "guns and butter" - until the bailout, this was the largest in US history - a redistribution scheme.
"In 1983 Congress changed the law by specifically authorizing the taxation of Social Security benefits." Remember that - so who was in charge?
What this SSA.gov sight points out is how much FDR LIED to the people to get us into socialism and how the .gov continues to TRICK us to take our money and make sure it ends up in the International Banks (the Fed).
This is only one part of a HUGE system designed to remove money from the Americans pockets and transfer it into the pockets of the political whores and their masters.
If only more people understood how evil our banking system is and how intertwined the MSM, .gov, and the Fed were it would scare the pants off of them - they operate a confidence game and the history of banking is a history of fraud. It doesn't matter what they admit to in public, if less than one per cent research it and understand the few who recite it are ridiculed.
"If governments should refran from regulation ...the worthlessness of the money becomes apparent and the fraud upon the public can be concealed no longer."- The Econiomic consequences of The Peace, by John Maynard Keynes (1920) - One of the most evil men in banking and government control I can think of, and most don't even know who this devil was.
Social Security was ALWAYS a ponzi scheme and it is about to FAIL.
I understand the Cassandra effect - I see it more than I would like - but I will not let it censor what is important...
I am trying to point out the looming problems that we need to address - personally I don't think we can fix them, only warn our fellow Americans of what is about to happen - evil men in government and banking put us in this position and I am convinced that it was a clear plan... get ready.
If you expect retirement or Social Security - YOU NEED TO MAKE PLANS NOW, it will not be there for you and you need to understand it was stolen from you, please remember who you can "thank" for this when the time comes.
The coming disaster - Social Security is going to disappear as more reach retirement than can support this SOCIALIST plan.
This is all much deeper than anyone is wanting to come to terms with...
We also have to come to terms with the fact that many of the most productive in the country will be retiring soon leaving a smaller section of productive people and millions of Illegals hungry for a smaller amount of money produced by the not-yet retired.
A statistical disaster is about to happen, and that is the massive retirement of the "baby-boomers" leaving much smaller populations of productive workers to cover larger proportions of retired people.
Our economy will not handle what is about to happen... and our government seems to be intent on driving us faster into the pit.
Our mistake would be in thinking that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid were ever good ideas or that they were ever Constitutional...
If a private company or individual started a pyramid scam like Social Security they would end up in prison for most of their adult lives, but whorish and evil politicians such as FDR are even called "great" for their treason.
I don't begrudge any reaching retirement your thoughts that you deserve you money back,
but you have to understand your parents, my parents, and all of us were TRICKED.
We were TRICKED into thinking this was all a good idea and told it was acceptable or even Constitutional - it was not and is not.
If you are of retirement age you most likely will see the end of Social Security, I KNOW I will never see a penny of it and I am PLANNING for this problem. I know I cannot "get out" of that
"voluntary" system, so I am not begrudging the retirement aged the money the government has stolen from all the taxpayers to keep a valuable and large voting block happy, it is all everyone for himself after all!
It is theft, it will always be theft, and it will continue to be an issue for this country.
I am not saying that someone who has worked their lives does not deserve a retirement they paid into - what I am saying is that is was THEFT and redistribution and was wrong from the beginning.
I am also saying that anyone on retirement NOW that will likely live long enough to see the next ten years will continue to see less and less of that VALUE (as the money will be worth less and less) and most likely will see the END of that system - you should be prepared to re-enter the workforce when this Social Security system collapses.
The simple fact is that there are LOTS of baby-boomers about to reach retirement who will by simple large numbers will stress the Social Security system to the point it will break. I don't begrudge the money that was stolen from them either but I recognize that it will break the
system and likely break the country.
It was a ponzi scam from the beginning, doomed to fail.
I for one do not want to see my children and grandchildren robbed of their money to pay for some ponzi scam. It needed to be fixed a long time ago but because the whores in politics are also cowards they never wanted to make that large voting block mad....
Because none were willing to face the problem it has only grown larger and will continue to grow larger until it fails catastrophically.
I would like my generation (40s-50s) to put it's foot down and dig in and fix this problem, but as long as we have people continue to say "I want mine" it will continue to grow larger and more dangerous. I think I deserve it myself, I look at how much they have pulled out and think, "I want that back" but I understand that looking at this with emotion and a sense of entitlement will only make the end run worse. I am even willing to continue to have it stolen from me and KNOW I will never see it as long as they stop the system NOW and take that burden off the following generations.
What IS the answer - I'm not sure, one could be to consolidate and grandfather then cut the system off... I do know if nothing is done it WILL fail. As we continue to have big business send work offshore and hire illegal workers there will be no BASE to draw funds from to support the
system.
It is close, and it will be huge - get ready.
This can be an emotional issue, don't let that take away from the looming factual problems that will have to be dealt with.
This and other issues have become such an emotional issue none are willing to look at it objectively.
The truth is this county flirted with Socialism and allowed the Social Security system to be set up in the first place, FDR lied when he said the new currency was not fiat currency, and lied about Social Security it was our biggest early experiment with socialism and it is about to fail.
They were tricked, we were tricked, and most of the people in the US were tricked and NONE of us likes to admit that we were duped and that makes it an emotional issue.
The FACTS are that it WILL fail - do we want to put our heads in the sand and have it fall on our backs or do we want to recognize what will happen?
I am willing to CONTINUE TO PAY - even KNOWING that I will never see a SINGLE penny! I just want it to end, I am willing to pay for the bad decisions of the past as long as it DOES NOT pass on for more generations. But I do not think we will survive as a country that long, we are already doomed, we already cannot handle more of the big problems and we have a long list waiting to hit us.
I would like it to change before it becomes a problem - what happens when we have a large amount of baby-boomers who DEPEND on Social Security and HAVE NO OTHER OPTION and find themselves with a bankrupt system and NO INCOME...
I'm not begrudging anyone who paid in and then expects some back - like I said, I would like some of that back myself - but I am willing to give it up to end the system - a system that CANNOT survive - it is one of the reasons that a ponzi scam is ILLEGAL - it ALWAYS WILL FAIL.
The system WILL fail - prepare NOW, this is not an issue of "blame this or blame that" but a simple issue of warning and fixing - if we cannot fix it we need to spread the warning that it WILL FAIL, I want us all to be ready for what is about to happen...
What happens on a fixed income and the TRILLIONS of dollars of fiat money is finally released by the banks and starts a new round of excessive inflation? That hammer is about to fall and I can guarantee that the government will NOT bring the fixed amounts up to compensate.
I hear lots of "I worked my ass off and my money was given to your grandparents - YOU owe me. You talk about patriotism and freedom like you almost know what it is all about."
First, I DO NOT owe YOU a damned thin dime. I never forced anyone to pay into a ponzi fraud, I am at least rational enough to understand you are being irrational. Second, I understand the disappointment more than you think, and I do understand patriotism, and a lot more about the Constitution and freedom than most of the typical Americans expecting their entitlements. (Far too many whiny Baby Boomers who seem to want to blame the "youth" for everything, you were the ones who vote in your own slavery... what nerve)
I am NOT disparaging anyones life of work or what they paid in taxes (think rational and logical you know the truth) I am only making the obvious conclusion - the political WHORES sold you and this country's future a long time ago! It is called fraud and you and I were taken for suckers and fleeced.
"But I get a statement from Social Security that tells me how much I will get, that is like a contract, a statement of account they have to honor"
This of course all assumes that the government has any honor and is any better than Bernie Madoff - they are not and never will be. How incompetent is the government? Have you not figured this out? Doesn't this problem just take the cake? Madoff gave out monthly statements also... we all know how that worked out.
When could we ever trust the government to be honest and honorable?
Yes, we were all forced to contribute, yes the government would rather waste money on ill advised endeavors, like buying votes with welfare and amnesty, yes they lied us into socialism.... But they are incompetent and they always were, we gave the keys to the bank to a bunch of drunken losers at the bar and we get this, a wreck of a country, the fault is not with the youth or your "selfish" neighbors but with your past voting - you made this bed now we all have to lie in it.
I would say my point is always hate, fear, and distrust the government, and understand they have no intent to help you but to help the ones who have the real power. Bail-outs, so who was behind that? Why was it so important that Bush the younger got on TV and told everyone that we needed to hand BANKERS our money or the country would be ruined - and what happened? Record PROFITS for the banks on our tax dollars.
The government did not "find the money" for the bailout - it is debt, crushing debt, on the backs of our grandchildren! They paid for the handouts for their masters with the debt slavery of our grandchildren! If the American people should be mad enough to start the second revolution - the first was for LESS - how the Founders must be turning in their graves!.
We could quote the Founding Fathers on this issue because they KNEW what was going to happen when the creeping forces of banking and intrigue would take over, and the need to keep out of "foreign entanglements" like Vietnam and now Iraq and Afghanistan... Ask yourself the simple question "who benefits?" - you know the answer deep down.
What do we do? They lied and they are broke and many who should be able to retire on money they were promised will not get it or it will stop when they need it...
How do we prepare for this? I would be willing to continue to pay Social Security and never see a penny - as long as it stops with my generation, I get the feeling I am alone in this - the desire to fix it at any cost and at any price, because it will continue to be a broken system and I want to fix it now before it gets worse.
The reality is WHEN does government EVER keep a promise unless it means votes or more cash into their whorish pockets.
A link from the mouth of the beast (US .Gov).
Johnson during Vietnam needed some money to continue at that point some government accounting shenanigans were uses to "cook the books" to help with the higher debt the government wanted to continue to buy the "guns and butter" - until the bailout, this was the largest in US history - a redistribution scheme.
"In 1983 Congress changed the law by specifically authorizing the taxation of Social Security benefits." Remember that - so who was in charge?
What this SSA.gov sight points out is how much FDR LIED to the people to get us into socialism and how the .gov continues to TRICK us to take our money and make sure it ends up in the International Banks (the Fed).
This is only one part of a HUGE system designed to remove money from the Americans pockets and transfer it into the pockets of the political whores and their masters.
If only more people understood how evil our banking system is and how intertwined the MSM, .gov, and the Fed were it would scare the pants off of them - they operate a confidence game and the history of banking is a history of fraud. It doesn't matter what they admit to in public, if less than one per cent research it and understand the few who recite it are ridiculed.
"If governments should refran from regulation ...the worthlessness of the money becomes apparent and the fraud upon the public can be concealed no longer."- The Econiomic consequences of The Peace, by John Maynard Keynes (1920) - One of the most evil men in banking and government control I can think of, and most don't even know who this devil was.
Social Security was ALWAYS a ponzi scheme and it is about to FAIL.
I understand the Cassandra effect - I see it more than I would like - but I will not let it censor what is important...
I am trying to point out the looming problems that we need to address - personally I don't think we can fix them, only warn our fellow Americans of what is about to happen - evil men in government and banking put us in this position and I am convinced that it was a clear plan... get ready.
FDR’s legacy of entitlements
If you want to here a bunch of endless whining and bitching just hang out with some "baby boomers" about to retire.
If you have never come across one of the "entitled" this could be a real treat. You would think that there were no more folks out there that are stupid enough to expect that there will be any of the socialist program Social Security, but there are and many of them will say that WE OWE THEM Socialist Insecurity because they fought in Vietnam or they paid so much into the program, or they paid for your grandparents or some other stupid self centered entitled spoiled brat reason. The of course are wrong, they did not "pay into" the system it was a ponzi scheme to begin with.
Every generation who has flirted with socialism from the "greatest generation" until even now who has not taken up arms to topple this disgusting government is guilty of dereliction and deserves NOTHING. This is not the lone responsibility of the younger generation the system was in place long before any of them were conceived.
FDR should have been hoisted onto a pike in front of the White House and then had his charred bones thrown into a public urinal so that when we visit DC we can urinate on his rotting corpse.
Roosevelt's failures: "Our government put into Stalin's hands the means of seizing a great slab of the continent of Europe, then stood aside while he took it and finally acquiesced in his conquests." ...Laying out in detail FDR's fatuousness in looking on Stalin - Stalin - as a friend and a fellow progressive, his main ally in constructing the New World Order.
These facts have, however, made little impression on the herds of historians. It seems that there is no degrading inanity, no catastrophic blunder that is not permitted a truly "great president."
John T. Flynn and the Myth of FDR
If you have never come across one of the "entitled" this could be a real treat. You would think that there were no more folks out there that are stupid enough to expect that there will be any of the socialist program Social Security, but there are and many of them will say that WE OWE THEM Socialist Insecurity because they fought in Vietnam or they paid so much into the program, or they paid for your grandparents or some other stupid self centered entitled spoiled brat reason. The of course are wrong, they did not "pay into" the system it was a ponzi scheme to begin with.
Every generation who has flirted with socialism from the "greatest generation" until even now who has not taken up arms to topple this disgusting government is guilty of dereliction and deserves NOTHING. This is not the lone responsibility of the younger generation the system was in place long before any of them were conceived.
FDR should have been hoisted onto a pike in front of the White House and then had his charred bones thrown into a public urinal so that when we visit DC we can urinate on his rotting corpse.
Roosevelt's failures: "Our government put into Stalin's hands the means of seizing a great slab of the continent of Europe, then stood aside while he took it and finally acquiesced in his conquests." ...Laying out in detail FDR's fatuousness in looking on Stalin - Stalin - as a friend and a fellow progressive, his main ally in constructing the New World Order.
These facts have, however, made little impression on the herds of historians. It seems that there is no degrading inanity, no catastrophic blunder that is not permitted a truly "great president."
John T. Flynn and the Myth of FDR
Andrew Jackson’s resistance to the Bank
A little history, read as much as you can before you start to get ill.
Ill because this has happened before and the combatants are just as interesting as anything Shakespeare ever dreamed of constructing.
First you must understand Fractional-reserve banking, it is a concept that you must understand to grasp how deep and how old the background to our problems are - a massive fraud that is very, very old. Fractional reserve banking describes the actions of banks lending out more funds than received from deposit accounts, currently the amounts of fractional lending are astronomical. This is part of the reality of "real inflation" that is the increase of money without real value.
Now we can talk about the central banks, in particular I want to review the First and Second Banks of the United States.
A paradise for speculators, the bastard child of Alexander Hamilton. To achieve this an increase of the duty on imported spirits, plus a raise the excise tax on domestically distilled whiskey and other liquors, this was the origin of the Whiskey Rebellion. The Whiskey Rebellion was where Washington was tested and FAILED as a leader shackling us with the curse of Federalism of the Hamiltonian type. Hamiltonian Federalism would later prove to be the seed of that bloody tree that would cause the War of the States.
The Bank aided this boom through its lending, which encouraged speculation in land. This lending allowed almost anyone to borrow money and speculate in land, sometimes doubling or even tripling the prices of land. With such a boom, hardly anyone noticed the widespread fraud occurring at the Bank as well as the economic bubble that had been created.
Sound familiar?
The result was the Panic of 1819
This would lead to the Bank War where two men would fight over the nation's finances, the notorious banker fraudster Nicholas Biddle and Andrew Jackson.
The "Bank War" of 1832–36 was initiated by Biddle when he decided to apply for the Bank's re-charter four years before the charter was scheduled to expire. Until 1832, Jackson, for three years, had ignored the Bank and Biddle. But, once challenged, he decided to veto the bill to re-charter the bank he hated, and Jackson gained great support from the public for his veto.
In early 1833, Jackson decided to pull the government's funds out of the Bank. In response Biddle decided to shrink the money supply and cause a recession in 1834 in order to force Jackson to accept a re-charter bill. The Bank demanded that old loans be repaid and made no new loans.
Biddle had threatened to cause a depression without a re-charter of the bank, and there was a recession in the first half of 1834, but another bill to re-charter failed (partly because Biddle was caught boasting in public that he and the bank would crush the economy) and the Bank was doomed. Its charter expired in April, 1836.
In the spring of 1834, the House voted overwhelmingly against rechartering the Bank. This was followed up by an even higher percentage vote to set up a special committee to investigate whether the Bank had caused the crash.
When the investigating committee arrived at the Bank's door in Philidelphia, armed with a subpoena to examine the books, Biddle refused to give them up, nor would he allow inspection of correspondence with Congressmen, relating to their personal loans and advances he made to them. He also refused to testify before the committee back in Washington.
Biddle would die before all of the charges would ever come to the point to see his worthless carcass punished.
Ill because this has happened before and the combatants are just as interesting as anything Shakespeare ever dreamed of constructing.
First you must understand Fractional-reserve banking, it is a concept that you must understand to grasp how deep and how old the background to our problems are - a massive fraud that is very, very old. Fractional reserve banking describes the actions of banks lending out more funds than received from deposit accounts, currently the amounts of fractional lending are astronomical. This is part of the reality of "real inflation" that is the increase of money without real value.
Now we can talk about the central banks, in particular I want to review the First and Second Banks of the United States.
A paradise for speculators, the bastard child of Alexander Hamilton. To achieve this an increase of the duty on imported spirits, plus a raise the excise tax on domestically distilled whiskey and other liquors, this was the origin of the Whiskey Rebellion. The Whiskey Rebellion was where Washington was tested and FAILED as a leader shackling us with the curse of Federalism of the Hamiltonian type. Hamiltonian Federalism would later prove to be the seed of that bloody tree that would cause the War of the States.
The Bank aided this boom through its lending, which encouraged speculation in land. This lending allowed almost anyone to borrow money and speculate in land, sometimes doubling or even tripling the prices of land. With such a boom, hardly anyone noticed the widespread fraud occurring at the Bank as well as the economic bubble that had been created.
Sound familiar?
The result was the Panic of 1819
This would lead to the Bank War where two men would fight over the nation's finances, the notorious banker fraudster Nicholas Biddle and Andrew Jackson.
The "Bank War" of 1832–36 was initiated by Biddle when he decided to apply for the Bank's re-charter four years before the charter was scheduled to expire. Until 1832, Jackson, for three years, had ignored the Bank and Biddle. But, once challenged, he decided to veto the bill to re-charter the bank he hated, and Jackson gained great support from the public for his veto.
In early 1833, Jackson decided to pull the government's funds out of the Bank. In response Biddle decided to shrink the money supply and cause a recession in 1834 in order to force Jackson to accept a re-charter bill. The Bank demanded that old loans be repaid and made no new loans.
Biddle had threatened to cause a depression without a re-charter of the bank, and there was a recession in the first half of 1834, but another bill to re-charter failed (partly because Biddle was caught boasting in public that he and the bank would crush the economy) and the Bank was doomed. Its charter expired in April, 1836.
In the spring of 1834, the House voted overwhelmingly against rechartering the Bank. This was followed up by an even higher percentage vote to set up a special committee to investigate whether the Bank had caused the crash.
When the investigating committee arrived at the Bank's door in Philidelphia, armed with a subpoena to examine the books, Biddle refused to give them up, nor would he allow inspection of correspondence with Congressmen, relating to their personal loans and advances he made to them. He also refused to testify before the committee back in Washington.
Biddle would die before all of the charges would ever come to the point to see his worthless carcass punished.
Afghanistan is a mess, Battle of Wanat
This will be a long post with lots of clips of information from the report... I found the report worth the read for the background information, 99% of this information the American public is ignorant of this background - our troops there are in for a long political trap and it is not their fault they are simply being used and abused.
If you are not intrested you may want to skip all the material in italics. (I do think it is worth the read and I would suggest going directly to the report.) I don't know how many times you will see "this was bad" but my impression of the report was that this was like they were in a bowl full of snakes.
Finishing the report I am even more convinced that Afghanistan is a mess, we should get out, it will only get worse, and the politicians have ulterior motives for our continued presence.
There were several times reading this I had the hair on my neck stand up.
Here is a link to the report - Battle of Wanat historical analysis
I don't think any of us thought the part about white hot barrel from the AP story was ever correct - it is an extension of using words to describe a stressful situation a hold over from the Vietnam style personal and journalistic embellishment - there have ben numerous studies about how humans do not make good eye-witness sources of information because of the tendency to fill-in information...
My reading of the report brings up some important items:
1. Focusing in on the fact that MSM whores (like AP) are not capable of getting a story 100% correct is not the real point (we know they do not, most of the time for propaganda).
2. This report is important, any concerned American willing to read and learn, should read this report (and others with additional information) to try to clearly understand the situation in the "Graveyard of Empires".
3. The situation the soldiers found themselves in was very bad. Things could have ended up much worse.
4. This group was not some bunch of FNG's this was a bunch of long-in-country hardened combat experienced soldiers. This was a group that would have maintained their rifles in the best condition possible and would have had lots of experience with "fire discipline" - they knew what they were doing and had done "it" under pressure for a long time.
5. While this report contains lot of important additional information about Afghanistan. I should tie it into the original subject of this thread. The current M4 rifle DOES have problems.
6. This particular situation has elements that would point out problems with any weapon system.
7. Because of the way the rifles were used generally, It does not look as if the reported "lack of power" in the 5.56 had much if any impact on this incidence.
8. There were far more examples of suppressive fire than direct lethal fire as this is the current tactic used by US forces, this clearly points to a need for a system capable of long term extended fire. One of the reasons sustained fire is often regulated to specially designed weapons.
9. Most of the air cooled belt-fed weapons have "quick-change" barrels that were designed to be changed every 200 to 300 rounds of fire. They could have used more than a few extra MGs each with a handful of extra barrels. Both the M-240 and the M-249 have a removable barrel, yet in the report it sounds as if they are not issued with spare barrels or they try not to use extra barrels - are they difficult to change or is that not the method of training? There was no mention of "hey soldier change that barrel" but rather "Hey soldier don't burn up that barrel" as if there is only one in use and available. Where were the extra barrels?
10. The situation the soldiers were placed in was almost medieval with attackers of high number moving in on a fixed position - again pointing to a need for a belt-fed with a quick change barrel in much higher numbers and in closer proximity to one another (a higher proportion distributed in the same groups).
11. Some of the malfunctions were due to explosions, shrapnel, and direct hits by aimed or inadvertent enemy small arms fire hitting the weapon and damaging operational parts or the frames, no weapon regardless of construction or design can withstand that damage.
I compare this situation to the the one the poor overrun soldiers in Mogadishu found themselves.
A rundown of Mogadishu here.
Of course none of this negates the fact that there are currently available modifications and weapons systems that would be better suited to the duty put to our servicemen in "the sand box" and that the price of replacement for the ENTIRE ARMY is LESS than what Halliburton ALONE has overcharged (read FRAUD) the military.
This is 1/10th to 1/20th of the money that has ended up "unaccounted or fraudulent" in Iraq ALONE and that was under a so-called "conservative" (read pathetic neo-con puppet)...
Now reviewing the report some things stick out - (report in italics) I have blanked more names than were blanked in the report, the report should stand on it's own.
Various authors and analysts have employed different terminology when referring to the insurgents in Afghanistan. The two most common terms are “Anti-Afghanistan Forces” (AAF) and “Anti-Coalition Militia” (ACM). ... the 10th Mountain Division more commonly utilized ACM. I have chosen to use “ACM” as I believe that it more properly describes the insurgents that are being encountered in Nuristan and Kunar Provinces. That is, the majority of the forces being encountered are more akin to militia, local fighters fighting within or near to their communities, rather than being what Western militaries might consider to be organized “forces.” Additionally, these insurgents perceive themselves as fighting for a better future for Afghanistan, one that is fundamentally Islamic, has local government, and is free of international or western influence. They are, more accurately, anti-coalition in that they are opposed to the Afghan central, western-influenced, elected government of President Karzai. Thus, the term “ACM” is more technically accurate than anti-Afghanistan (they simply have a radically different view of what they consider to be pro or anti-Afghanistan).
Can we draw any parallels? Say Vietnam?
These villages were set in locations which were inaccessible and surrounded by vast tracts of rugged lands not traversed by trails, paths or routes. These tracts could only be exploited by well-armed herders who could take their animals there under protection, and they served as effective buffer zones for their communities.
Armed locals who are expected to be armed and comfortable with the arms in a hostile rugged environment...
The most well known American incursion into Kunar Province was Operation Red Wing, when a U.S. Navy SEAL Team was inserted against Ahmad Shah, a Taliban HVT to the east of the Korengal Valley and south of the Pech River in June 2005. The SEAL Team was compromised by a chance encounter with Afghan goat herders, and following a heavy firefight was defeated by a large force of insurgents. A Special Operations helicopter, hurrying to the relief of the SEAL Team, was shot down by an RPG and sixteen soldiers were killed. Ahmad Shah would subsequently be slain by the 3rd BCT, 10th Mountain Division in 2006. Of the SEAL Team, only Hospital Corpsman 2nd Class (SEAL) [blank] survived.
What can I say? That is interesting, note the helicopter and RPG just as in Mogadishu.
I like Wanat quite a bit. The people were always good to us. They always gave us tips when trouble was coming. I felt very confident moving about without my armor on, ...The key thing was the relationship that LT [blank] and his engineers had established there when they were building the bridge. [blank] was great with the people, and they took him in like a brother. This made the place pretty safe, comparatively speaking. - Battalion Commander
The interaction with some of the military and the locals is worth the read particularly the engineers.
There was considerable ACM presence in the Waigal Valley, including politically oriented formations such as various former Mujahideen entities
Remember that name? Mujahideen freedom fighters ring a bell?
The 10th Mountain Division in the campaign season before had initiated “Operation Mountain Lamb” specifically focused upon the distribution of humanitarian supplies to the population of northeast Afghanistan.xliv Neither TF Rock nor TF Bayonet ever established such a program.
To the people of the Waigal Valley whose homes were being leveled, and whose neighborhoods and farm fields were being turned into battlefields, they saw no commensurate improvement in their lives, and no real evidence of security being provided by the coalition. As demonstrated in Wanat in the fall of 2006, when security was provided, interaction between the soldiers and the population was permitted, and when the community derived economic benefits (such as being paid for labor, selling bread and food, and receiving two modern bridges) from the coalition’s presence, the community responded with strong pro-central Afghanistan government and American feelings, and reciprocated with support and intelligence. However, a lack of services by the Afghan government, coupled with lack of security being enabled by the American military presence, and alienation caused by the aggressive kinetic fight being carried to the insurgents by TF Rock, swiftly degraded the relationships between the population of the Waigal Valley and the coalition. The population, facing legitimate threats and dangers from the virulent insurgents, could not tolerate being perceived as being supportive of the coalition unless they were being adequately protected by the American paratroopers and ANA/ANP. Without security, or improvements to their quality of life that were worth risking their lives for, the residents of the Waigal Valley remained (at best) uncommitted. Numerous American soldiers have interpreted this as: “The population is also very xenophobic and are largely fence sitters.” Lieutenant Colonel [blank], assessed that: “Waygul history is replete with deception, dishonesty, two-faced tactics, actions counter to Afghan culture and Islam.” However, both of these assessments can be construed as being exclusively American in interpretation, rather than incorporating the Waigal Valley population’s situation and concerns.
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Influencing this perception is the extremely deleterious effects of destroying even a single residence in the comparatively small villages of the Waigal Valley, which are very tight-knit and inter-related through the extended families that inhabit the region, and are also desperately poor. To the residents of these communities, they hold the Americans who dropped the bomb to be equally as culpable as the insurgents who attracted the bomb in the first place. One senior American analyst with exhaustive experience of Pakistan and Afghanistan has concluded: “…the indiscriminate use of airpower in inhabited areas has been extremely damaging to counterinsurgency efforts among a revenge-oriented people with a zero tolerance for insult and collateral damage.” The highly kinetic approach favored by TF Rock, in contravention of the earlier population centric approach taken by TF Chosen, rapidly and inevitably degraded the relationships between the U.S. Army and the Waigal Valley population.
The stick and carrot in action.
Then an event happened - the details on the linked page, that could be called the straw on the camel.
This attack, whether justified or not by U.S. forces, aggravated public opinion throughout the Waigal Valley against the Americans, and caused much of the population to (for at least the time being) actively support the ACM. Sami Nurstani, a Waigal Valley resident, analyzed the incident:
I think July 4 was a disaster both for the people of Waygal valley and the Coalition forces. The aftermath of the Bella incident led to the Wantt attack, the link is very obvious mostly caused by the anger over the death of innocent civilian in Bella. I have known two of the deceased in that incident. Most people believe that the locals were so angered by the Bella incident that they even cooperated (or simply did not report to the Americans) with those who attacked the Wantt outpost. The attack certainly changed people’s support for the US army given the fact that they killed the very people who had helped them or were very cooperative to them.
The result...
Chosen Company and TF Rock had spent over fourteen months in intensive, unremitting combat in the Waigal. By this time, the soldiers of Chosen Company and TF Rock were more than familiar with the ACM that they contested against. They knew how the insurgents fought, they understood their tactics and how they preferred to employ their weapons, and they respected the ACM as tough, determined, committed and skilled fighters. However, as noted, actual interactions between the population and the paratroopers had been extremely limited, and as a result the population and Chosen soldiers were virtual strangers. Generally, Chosen Company’s time in the Waigal Valley had proven to be frustrating, and although considerable efforts had been expended, little real progress was visible. As LTC Ostlund believed, and most of his Chosen Few soldiers would have concurred with him, “Waygul history is replete with deception, dishonesty, two-faced tactics, actions counter to Afghan culture and Islam. [The] Population provides no information to GoA [Government of Afghanistan] and provides support to AAF [Anti-Afghan Forces].” One young, but highly experienced, Chosen Company soldier echoed LTC [blank] impressions:
Those people, they disgust me. We built them a school and gave them money for roads. A lot of times, I gave the workers clothes for their kids and shoes for their kids. I gave them blankets. We’d give them food and they complained that we didn’t do enough for them. Those people live a different life than the rest of the Afghanis. They have no morals whatsoever. They would kill their own son if you gave them a goat. Everything about those people up there is disgusting. They’re worthless.
Against this background of mutual distrust and nearly fifteen months of acrimonious interaction, the withdrawal from COP Bella and the occupation of COP Kahler in Wanat moved forward.
See above about personal viewpoints, much of this sounds eerily like Vietnam in more than a few ways.
With a large insurgent force actively operating in the Waigal Valley and available for immediate employment, and the local populace ill disposed to the coalition as a fall-out from the earlier helicopter attack, it was unlikely that the ACM would let this fleeting opportunity slip away without taking action.
Under close observation with possible willing or coerced insiders.
The great amount of firepower employed for two hours suggests that there was considerable local fighter support, simply to transport and supply the staggering quantities of ordnance expended, and evacuate the considerable number of casualties successfully from the battlefield. This was a large, and extremely skilled and dedicated, fighting force.
This was bad, very bad, not just a handful of people but a large coordinated attack.
First, beginning the night of July 11th-12th, the ITAS and LRAS sensors at Wanat began to acquire small groups of individuals moving across the mountain slopes around COP Kahler, and then vanishing into the many precipitous draws and ravines of the countryside. With one exception, they could not be positively identified (PID) as insurgents. However, the sudden appearance of numerous small groups of individuals should have been a matter of concern.
The dark clouds and ill wind before the storm...
Most of these reports were apparently not judged to be of significant import... He was demanding the support we weren’t getting, but we weren’t the priority anymore because it wasn’t flashy... “We had no support from brigade, division or theater level assets at the time.”...previous experience in the year before was that once an outpost was established it was rapidly attacked.
Review the construction and limitations with the HESCO Barriers, they had even ran out of fuel for the earth mover because they could not pump it out of storage!
There were repeated and recurring failures of small arms firing at “cyclic” rates of fire (high volume of fire for extended duration) during this engagement. Weapon systems that experienced failures include M-4 rifles, SAW automatic weapons, and MK19 grenade launchers. The failure of weapons at OP Topside degraded the defense of that post at a critical moment in the engagement, and contributed to the penetration of that position by the ACM. Some GWOT and U.S. Army veterans queried by the author have suggested that this could have been caused by improper weapon cleaning. However, numerous Chosen Few NCOs interviewed for this study have been vehemently adamant in stating that weapons were meticulously and regularly cleaned, and rigorously and routinely inspected by the chain of command. Other GWOT veterans consulted have noted that the high rates of fire sustained during the two hour intense engagement phase at Wanat could possibly have contributed to these failures. However, numerous weapons failed relatively early in the engagement (particularly a number of M-4 rifles and at one SAW at the mortar pit), and in any event the maintenance of cyclic rates of fire was critical to restore fire superiority, and to prevent positions (particularly at OP Topside) from being overrun by determined, numerous, and hard pressed insurgent assaults. The U.S. Army Project Manager-Soldier Weapons needs to investigate the reason(s) behind the repeated failures of multiple weapons at sustained cyclic rates of fire, and initiate appropriate measures to address such failures.
I think this supports the theory that the systems need upgrading.
The platoon sized element that occupied Wanat possessed barely sufficient firepower to defend itself (as the events of July 13th decisively validated); and lacked adequate firepower to extend their sphere of influence even from the COP into the adjoining community.
Speaks for itself.
“Woe to the government, which, relying on half-hearted politics and a shackled military policy, meets a foe who, like the untamed elements, knows no law other than his own power! Any defect of action and effort will turn to the advantage of the enemy, and it will not be easy to change from a fencer’s position to that of a wrestler. A slight blow may then often be enough to cause a total collapse.” - General Carl Von Clausewitz
The corruption in standard military procurement, the M4 carbine
Failure of the AR15/M16 (in the M4 configuration) the biased testing, coverups, and kickbacks taint the entire process and the participants.
The soldiers said their weapons were meticulously cared for and routinely inspected by commanders. But still the weapons had breakdowns...
Battlefield surveys show that nearly 90 percent of soldiers are satisfied with their M4s, according to Brig. Gen. Peter Fuller, head of the Army office that buys soldier gear.
Fuller said he's received no official reports of flawed weapons performance at Wanat. "Until it showed up in the news, I was surprised to hear about all this," he said.
A lie like that should be embarrassing!
This is not a new problem!
When even highly trained infantrymen like Self have problems with their M4 it is a sign there might be a problem with the weapon, not the soldier.
“We got up and started firing and moving to some boulders 15 meters away,” he said.
Once behind cover, Self tried to fire again, but his weapon jammed.
Instinctively, he tried to fix it with “immediate action,” a drill he’d practiced countless times.
“I pulled my charging handle back, and there was a round stuck in the chamber,” he recalled.
Like the rest of his men, Self always carried a cleaning rod zip-tied to the side of his weapon in case it failed to extract a round from the chamber.
A rod zip tied to the side of the rifle is not a sign of a well preforming rifle - they are EXPECTING a problem!!!
“There was only one good way to get it out and that’s to ram it out with a cleaning rod,” he said. “I started to knock the round out by pushing the rod down the barrel, and it broke off. There was nothing I could do with it after that.”
To Col. Robert Radcliffe, the man responsible for overseeing the Army’s needs for small arms, the M16 family is “pretty damn good.” It’s simply too expensive, he said, to replace it with anything less than a “significant leap in technology.”
Just wait until this turns into a political storm...
From the very beginning the weaknesses of the Stoner designed M16/AR15 derivative of the AR10 came to the forefront and were documented.
Because there is so much "patriotic romanticism" mixed in with lots of service training mental conditioning that has spilled out into the public this has become a problem AGAIN and AGAIN we see more similarities to Vietnam. They call Afghanistan the "Graveyard of Empires" they called the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan "The Soviet's Vietnam" is this all that hard to understand?
Too much cheerleading crap like: "We are the best and have the best stuff because we are the best" is and was simply marketing. Reality is reality, perception can be flawed.
Failure to maintain the weapon meticulously can lead to jams, especially in sandy or dusty environments. Kalashnikovs may not have a reputation for accuracy, or lightness – but they do have a well-earned reputation for being able to take amazing amounts of abuse, without maintenance, and still fire reliably. The Israeli “Galil” applied these lessons in 5.56mm caliber, and earned a similar reputation. Colt’s M16 and M4 have never done so.
The M4 finishes dead last, with more than 3.5x more jams than the 3rd place finisher. But the US Army publicly says that it doesn’t care. Meanwhile, single-source contracts to Colt continue…
- Defense Industry Daily
There are mountains of information about the problems and design flaws in the current exceptionally overpriced M4 and some realistic solutions, like the FN SCAR project and the HK 416 upper modification.
But as I have stated before our current political leadership is more concerned in making sure favored contractors get highest dollar rather than give the soldier the tools he should have...
And all of you fanboy war-hawk types that say "well if they just keep it clean it is the best, they are obviously are just sloppy and incompetent" should be ashamed of yourselves, you always talk about supporting the troops and you say crap like this! Go pound sand you pathetic little shits.
To be honest the fact that more than $13 billion in Iraq aid has been classified as wasted or stolen. Another $7.8 billion cannot be accounted for $1.4 billion in overcharges from Halliburton, and that is JUST Iraq - imagine, (and the numbers are fluid from month to month as there are changes) there are (from what I can find on the internet) 130,000 soldiers in Iraq and 29,950 in Afghanistan...
So that translates to $5750 or more for each soldier for new rifles that would work like they should - if we just did not let contractors screw the taxpayers...
Iraq fraud
“The truth is, to change out a fleet takes a tremendous amount of money,” Radcliffe said, referring to the task of outfitting a million soldiers with new weapons.
Experts say it would cost approximately $1 billion to replace the Army’s M16s and M4s with an off-the-shelf weapon like the 416.
Hey Radcliffe, why don't we just get Halliburton to return their fucking overcharges by stocking up the ENTIRE ARMY with new rifles!
No, because the politicians are letting them tie us to a barrel and have at us (the country) without lubrication, and our people are paying with their lives over an amount of money that they say is simply an "accounting error”.
The soldiers said their weapons were meticulously cared for and routinely inspected by commanders. But still the weapons had breakdowns...
Battlefield surveys show that nearly 90 percent of soldiers are satisfied with their M4s, according to Brig. Gen. Peter Fuller, head of the Army office that buys soldier gear.
Fuller said he's received no official reports of flawed weapons performance at Wanat. "Until it showed up in the news, I was surprised to hear about all this," he said.
A lie like that should be embarrassing!
This is not a new problem!
When even highly trained infantrymen like Self have problems with their M4 it is a sign there might be a problem with the weapon, not the soldier.
“We got up and started firing and moving to some boulders 15 meters away,” he said.
Once behind cover, Self tried to fire again, but his weapon jammed.
Instinctively, he tried to fix it with “immediate action,” a drill he’d practiced countless times.
“I pulled my charging handle back, and there was a round stuck in the chamber,” he recalled.
Like the rest of his men, Self always carried a cleaning rod zip-tied to the side of his weapon in case it failed to extract a round from the chamber.
A rod zip tied to the side of the rifle is not a sign of a well preforming rifle - they are EXPECTING a problem!!!
“There was only one good way to get it out and that’s to ram it out with a cleaning rod,” he said. “I started to knock the round out by pushing the rod down the barrel, and it broke off. There was nothing I could do with it after that.”
To Col. Robert Radcliffe, the man responsible for overseeing the Army’s needs for small arms, the M16 family is “pretty damn good.” It’s simply too expensive, he said, to replace it with anything less than a “significant leap in technology.”
Just wait until this turns into a political storm...
From the very beginning the weaknesses of the Stoner designed M16/AR15 derivative of the AR10 came to the forefront and were documented.
Because there is so much "patriotic romanticism" mixed in with lots of service training mental conditioning that has spilled out into the public this has become a problem AGAIN and AGAIN we see more similarities to Vietnam. They call Afghanistan the "Graveyard of Empires" they called the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan "The Soviet's Vietnam" is this all that hard to understand?
Too much cheerleading crap like: "We are the best and have the best stuff because we are the best" is and was simply marketing. Reality is reality, perception can be flawed.
Failure to maintain the weapon meticulously can lead to jams, especially in sandy or dusty environments. Kalashnikovs may not have a reputation for accuracy, or lightness – but they do have a well-earned reputation for being able to take amazing amounts of abuse, without maintenance, and still fire reliably. The Israeli “Galil” applied these lessons in 5.56mm caliber, and earned a similar reputation. Colt’s M16 and M4 have never done so.
The M4 finishes dead last, with more than 3.5x more jams than the 3rd place finisher. But the US Army publicly says that it doesn’t care. Meanwhile, single-source contracts to Colt continue…
- Defense Industry Daily
There are mountains of information about the problems and design flaws in the current exceptionally overpriced M4 and some realistic solutions, like the FN SCAR project and the HK 416 upper modification.
But as I have stated before our current political leadership is more concerned in making sure favored contractors get highest dollar rather than give the soldier the tools he should have...
And all of you fanboy war-hawk types that say "well if they just keep it clean it is the best, they are obviously are just sloppy and incompetent" should be ashamed of yourselves, you always talk about supporting the troops and you say crap like this! Go pound sand you pathetic little shits.
To be honest the fact that more than $13 billion in Iraq aid has been classified as wasted or stolen. Another $7.8 billion cannot be accounted for $1.4 billion in overcharges from Halliburton, and that is JUST Iraq - imagine, (and the numbers are fluid from month to month as there are changes) there are (from what I can find on the internet) 130,000 soldiers in Iraq and 29,950 in Afghanistan...
So that translates to $5750 or more for each soldier for new rifles that would work like they should - if we just did not let contractors screw the taxpayers...
Iraq fraud
“The truth is, to change out a fleet takes a tremendous amount of money,” Radcliffe said, referring to the task of outfitting a million soldiers with new weapons.
Experts say it would cost approximately $1 billion to replace the Army’s M16s and M4s with an off-the-shelf weapon like the 416.
Hey Radcliffe, why don't we just get Halliburton to return their fucking overcharges by stocking up the ENTIRE ARMY with new rifles!
No, because the politicians are letting them tie us to a barrel and have at us (the country) without lubrication, and our people are paying with their lives over an amount of money that they say is simply an "accounting error”.
Sunday, April 3, 2011
Our Government would never...
After all the false crap from the established media whores and other shills I get angry with statements like this...
How about this for a reminder you indoctrinated, infantile, statist, jackasses... your memory far too short.
I present a little history for you government worshiping neocon/neoliberal/progressive/Kipling-patriot bootlicking idiots.
Here is a list of “conspiracies” that are documented FACT.
The surprise explosion of the battleship Maine, explosion was from the inside - result, The Hearst controlled press accused the Spanish, claiming a remote-controlled mine under the battleship. The USA declared war on Spain. The US conquered Philippines, Guam and Cuba and we are stuck with two of the three as economic drains to this day!
Sinking of the Lusitania, the major explosions were inside the Lusitania as it was secretly transporting 6 million pounds of artillery shells and rifle ammunition as well as other explosives on behalf of Morgan banking corporation- result, more propaganda, this time for World War I.
The US naval intelligence, chief of Japanese intelligence suggested "8 insults", that should bring Japan into war with the US. Roosevelt executed this plan immediately and added other insults including a blockade of Japanese oil imports. FDR also declared an all-out embargo against the Japanese Empire and forbid the Japanese use of Panama canal. - result, Pearl Harbor was left open (deliberately) for Japanese attack, a back door to war with Germany.
Overthrow of Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran.
Overthrow of Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala.
Overthrow of Juan Bosch in the Dominican Republic.
Tuskegee syphilis experiment, U.S. Public Health Service. Investigators recruited black citizens with syphilis to secretly watch the progression of the untreated disease. - result, death, suffering and children born with congenital syphilis.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, USS Maddox (DD-731) destroyer fired on North Vietnamese Navy P-4 torpedo boats when the boats approached within ten thousand yards. The Maddox fired three rounds to warn off the communist boats. This initial action was never reported by the Johnson administration, which insisted that the Vietnamese boats fired first. A second alleged attack was fabricated. - Result, President Johnson rolled into the Vietnam "war" kicking the military industrial machine into full gear.
USS Liberty - just look this one up yourself...
Operation Northwoods - just look this one up yourself...
COINTELPRO - just look this one up yourself...
Project MK-ULTRA, covert, illegal CIA human research program for the use of LSD, LSA, barbiturates, amphetamines, heroin, morphine, temazepam, mescaline, psilocybin, scopolamine, marijuana, alcohol, sodium pentothal, and ergine on United States and Canadian citizens.
Invasion of Kuwait, Saddam Hussein asked for permission from the US (via their ambassador April Gillespie) and got an answer that the US does not care Arab quarrels. - result, a coalition of 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and eliminate the Iraqi military. (Remember the media hoax, when the daughter of Kuwaiti US ambassador played "nurse" on TV and "witnessed" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait.)
Weapons of mass destruction, Iraq was branded a clear and present danger to the United States with ties to 911. - result, Enduring Justice/Operation Iraqi Freedom, we know for sure this story was a hoax resulting in billions of fraud by Halliburton and others.
How can you believe our United States elected government could be so evil...
You have to be insane, dangerous, and anti-American to think that our Government would be involved in or allow "false flag” or unconstitutional and amoral operations. You only want to rock this nation's foundation, tear us apart and plant the seeds of dissatisfaction in all of us.
If you question the official story you must be _______ (fill in the blank, racist, radical, anti-semitic, violence prone truther, crazy survivalist, godless atheist).
How about this for a reminder you indoctrinated, infantile, statist, jackasses... your memory far too short.
I present a little history for you government worshiping neocon/neoliberal/progressive/Kipling-patriot bootlicking idiots.
Here is a list of “conspiracies” that are documented FACT.
The surprise explosion of the battleship Maine, explosion was from the inside - result, The Hearst controlled press accused the Spanish, claiming a remote-controlled mine under the battleship. The USA declared war on Spain. The US conquered Philippines, Guam and Cuba and we are stuck with two of the three as economic drains to this day!
Sinking of the Lusitania, the major explosions were inside the Lusitania as it was secretly transporting 6 million pounds of artillery shells and rifle ammunition as well as other explosives on behalf of Morgan banking corporation- result, more propaganda, this time for World War I.
The US naval intelligence, chief of Japanese intelligence suggested "8 insults", that should bring Japan into war with the US. Roosevelt executed this plan immediately and added other insults including a blockade of Japanese oil imports. FDR also declared an all-out embargo against the Japanese Empire and forbid the Japanese use of Panama canal. - result, Pearl Harbor was left open (deliberately) for Japanese attack, a back door to war with Germany.
Overthrow of Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran.
Overthrow of Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala.
Overthrow of Juan Bosch in the Dominican Republic.
Tuskegee syphilis experiment, U.S. Public Health Service. Investigators recruited black citizens with syphilis to secretly watch the progression of the untreated disease. - result, death, suffering and children born with congenital syphilis.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, USS Maddox (DD-731) destroyer fired on North Vietnamese Navy P-4 torpedo boats when the boats approached within ten thousand yards. The Maddox fired three rounds to warn off the communist boats. This initial action was never reported by the Johnson administration, which insisted that the Vietnamese boats fired first. A second alleged attack was fabricated. - Result, President Johnson rolled into the Vietnam "war" kicking the military industrial machine into full gear.
USS Liberty - just look this one up yourself...
Operation Northwoods - just look this one up yourself...
COINTELPRO - just look this one up yourself...
Project MK-ULTRA, covert, illegal CIA human research program for the use of LSD, LSA, barbiturates, amphetamines, heroin, morphine, temazepam, mescaline, psilocybin, scopolamine, marijuana, alcohol, sodium pentothal, and ergine on United States and Canadian citizens.
Invasion of Kuwait, Saddam Hussein asked for permission from the US (via their ambassador April Gillespie) and got an answer that the US does not care Arab quarrels. - result, a coalition of 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and eliminate the Iraqi military. (Remember the media hoax, when the daughter of Kuwaiti US ambassador played "nurse" on TV and "witnessed" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait.)
Weapons of mass destruction, Iraq was branded a clear and present danger to the United States with ties to 911. - result, Enduring Justice/Operation Iraqi Freedom, we know for sure this story was a hoax resulting in billions of fraud by Halliburton and others.
Are you now so stupid and disingenuous to say that having thoughts of government evil is "crazy" and dangerous?
I think you statist lickspittles need to get a grip on reality.
Wealth and detecting the ruling oligarchy
The oligarchy in America, wealth and means expose the true story.
To be honest, if there are going to be taxes they SHOULD be evenly distributed, but currently there is no parity in the tax system. I think personal taxes are theft. What we hear all the time is "boo hoo, the wealthy are SO mistreated" they pay the most in taxes, in fact they pay a large percentage but it is not proportionate to the control of wealth and in particular liquid assets.
Looking at the facts this they are not paying a proportion even near what the middle class and poor (non-subsidised) pay, the worst inequality of course in the Social Security pyramid scam (none of the following figures include Social Security, keep this in mind).
In the United States at the end of 2001, 10% of the population owned 71% of the wealth and the top 1% owned 38%. On the other hand, the bottom 40% owned less than 1% of the nation's wealth.
Currently, the richest 1% hold about 38% of all privately held wealth in the United States while the bottom 90% held 73% of all debt.
This tally of wealth also does not include the "control of wealth" with corporations, instruments of "perpetuity," and the shells of protection used by the top .01% of the top wealthy. Imagine the top banking families and their control of the Federal Reserve, all the money transferred to the US Government is at interest, interest that must be paid in more of the money that must be transferred. The very top income group (.001%) has a lower average effective tax rate than the rest of the top 1 percent of returns because these extremely high-income returns are more likely to have income from capital gains and dividends, which are typically taxed at lower rates. This is not even the top "working wealthy" but the speculators, old guard, and banking families, the ruling parasites.
In terms of types of financial wealth, the top one percent of households have 38.3% of all privately held stock, 60.6% of financial securities, and 62.4% of business equity. The top 10% have 80% to 90% of stocks, bonds, trust funds, and business equity, and over 75% of non-home real estate. Since financial wealth is what counts as far as the control of income-producing assets, we can say that just 10% of the people own the United States of America.
In the end it is not the top one percent but the top .001% that is actually in charge, they are the untouchables.
Bailouts and political money
Any of you remember the neocon Phil Gramm? a "former Democrat" turned "Republican" and trotted out specifically to defeat Ron Paul in 1984. If you do know about Phil and his horrible record as a neocon and his connection to the most dirty of financial market politics (including Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act) then you should be introduced to his wife Wendy from Enron...
Here is something new about the political connections with Wendy and the dirt in the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC).
Just how dirty were the bailout and the oligarchy connections, we are only seeing the top of the iceberg above the water.
Some American families are $133 a month away from Great Depression like problems – 1 out of 7 Americans receiving food assistance at an average of $133 per person.
One more crack in the oligarchy facade - overstepping the bounds and getting caught - the mortgage scam.
Here is something new about the political connections with Wendy and the dirt in the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC).
On Judge Levine's first week on the job, nearly twenty years ago, he came into my office and stated that he had promised Wendy Gramm, then Chairwoman of the Commission, that we would never rule in a complainant's favor. A review of his rulings will confirm that he has fulfilled his vow.
Just how dirty were the bailout and the oligarchy connections, we are only seeing the top of the iceberg above the water.
Some American families are $133 a month away from Great Depression like problems – 1 out of 7 Americans receiving food assistance at an average of $133 per person.
One more crack in the oligarchy facade - overstepping the bounds and getting caught - the mortgage scam.
Unless the general public starts to understand about how the banking scam works they will continue to let it "rape us ALL over a barrel".
The flawed Constitution and The Hamiltonians
The Hamiltonians won.
The Constitution is flawed, we do know that much of the Constitution was written under the intent and direction of the Federalists who with the participation of individuals like Hamilton took a clear mercantilist bent so we have the flaws in the constitution, many possibly deliberate.
Simply the theft of private property by government should have been prohibited, specifically placed into the law. Property taxes by a homeowners association, city, county, state, and federal monster are all examples of theft and all are unethical and odious. If you can take something then the "owner" is not a real "owner" this is just as we have in the US now, there is no real right to property, don't pay the pirates their plunder (taxes) and see WHO owns that land... a clear flaw in the current constitutional system.
Don't fall into the fallacious trap of dualistic political thinking that criticism equates to a contrary/competitive position... ie. you do not have to be a democrat to find flaws and criticize the republicans.
So lets review ideas in modern politics in contrast to the Constitutional era.
I do not completely support individualist anarchism because a system of this sort will never happen it would become a vehicle for even more destructive and evil oppression. Parasitic predatory humans and their willing lickspittles are normal, common, and part of the human heard. Parasitic predatory humans will NOT stop trying to harm others for their own benefit, I don't argue that we have a frightful servant that has become a horrid master, but the "non/zero-aggression principle" and individualist. Anarchism just does not appear to have a realistic solutions to simple social injustices and problems, it only tends to support narcissism and juvenile thinking and opens the path for predatory parasites.
I am often asked "what is a viable solution to these inherent problems?"
A good question, and sadly I am not sure I have a good answer for this question...
I would have thought of my self as a constitutionalists in the past, then an Agrarian of the Jeffersonian bent (where I think I am now) but that leads to the consideration of Individualist Anarchy (as Jefferson had that leaning also).
Here are my problems:
Humans produce (naturally) a proportion of parasites, predators, manipulators, statists, lickspittles, and sociopaths (and combinations) I don't think human genetics will ever eliminate that. I believe that the proposed anarchist systems and "non/zero-aggression principle" proposals do not adequately address this weakness.
Humans are herd animals the above predators and others will always use this to create systems that are far worse forms of control, we can see the proof in this with the lack of controls in the constitution - I do believe the constitution has flaws, the reason we are here with the problems we have now.
My solutions (an even better question I am not sure I have an answer, at least a complete one):
Stronger language in a law based system where government power is limited and in effect crippled as much as possible. The system must address the power of the biological oligarchy and it's influence must be marginalized. I think a familiar and constitutional system in nature may work but with more controls on the government, clearly the constitutional government we have now was simply the transfer of power from the royal/religious oligarchy (only partly) to a Masonic modeled oligarchy (and then the Masons were promptly marginalized) where mercantilistic power holders became the new oligarchy.
I have sympathy for the anarchist philosophy and to some extent what is identified as "objectivist" but only partly and with much reservation (more reservations to the cult of the "objectivist" as I think that Rand was both unoriginal, narcissistic, and racist and therefore very flawed).
The curse of Hamilton, Lincoln, and other statists
The most candid and compelling summary of this perspective doesn't come from a right-wing revisionist, but rather from Columbia Law School Professor George P. Fletcher, an establishment academic of an unabashedly Marxist bent.
In his valuable book The Secret Constitution, Fletcher acknowledges that the war waged by Abraham the Annihilator was not an effort to "preserve the Union," much less to restore the pre-war constitutional order. Instead, that war was intended to consolidate the united States into a unitary state governed by what Fletcher calls a "New Constitutional Order." In the New Order, writes Fletcher, the founding premise is that "the federal government, victorious in warfare, must continue its aggressive intervention in the lives of its citizens."
Saturday, April 2, 2011
They will take your guns, or anything else...
Are any of you foolish enough to think that they will not take your guns, or anything else.
Over a freaking basketball hoop!
Note how the “official” bitch lies and lies and lies...
And for the real story...
“Strong persuasion” yea, its coming, and you are a fool if you think that the military will not carry out unconstitutional orders...
They did! and they will!
Over a freaking basketball hoop!
Note how the “official” bitch lies and lies and lies...
And for the real story...
“Strong persuasion” yea, its coming, and you are a fool if you think that the military will not carry out unconstitutional orders...
They did! and they will!
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